Yeah that plate insures a good seal between the block and tensioner, to maintain good oil pressure. To be safe , if you go back in replace the tensioner too.
Only after the initial start up was there a mis-fire. Shook the Camaro. Now it runs OK. I put the pin back into the one tensioner, don’t recall which side it was. Also, one of them had that sheet metal backing plate with a bend it from shipping. I think that either one of these, most likely the plate, is causing this problem.
I did this job, with help from your videos. No codes other than when first started, had mis-fire on cyls 1&3.
No for the bad news… I think the right tensioner is bleeding off. After about 6 hours of sitting and after 2 or 3 seconds of start up, I hear a metalic clicking for about a second, or two. I can prevent this from occurring by starting it up and shutting it off as soon as it starts. Then I start it again, and it will not make the sound.
It takes alot of turning to get them to align the way your doing it. If you are confident in the marks and proper alignment just disreguard the current placement, tear it down and align. Be sure to turn it by hand after to make sure it is not binding. The adjuster should have a small locking mechanisim on it that stops it from going back in. That needs to be released in order for you to put it back together, once depressed fully you should be able to pin it back, some use a clip.
OK, I have the cover off and have been turning the engine over trying to get the chains to align. I have the cam tools ( I’m doing the 2010 Camaro, not the same, but close enough) Should I just lock the cams, mark the cam gear things, and put on the new chains aligning them with gear/chain marks instead of keep rotating the engine? Also, one of the self adjustors came with the pin already out and the spring exposed. Ever seen that? Can’t get it to go back inside the holder. It spins out on me.
Problem is the chain is the same design, the design being the problem. Try autozone and see if they dont offer a kit, gears included. You will need the larger kit to do away with the original design….got me ?
Youtube will not let me link to rockauto the two different kits that they offer. One is from AC Delco and is just the three chains, plus gaskets. The other is Cloyes and it replaces the chains, guides, gears, and gaskets. It is a 15 piece kit. I would much rather replace the chains only with the AC Delco kit. Is it a good chain?
Either will work just fine, just make sure it’s the updated version, it appears different. If not , expect to do it again arround the same milage as before.
CLOYES Part # 90753S This replaces everything, I believe.
Are you using a kit more like this one? ACDELCO Part # 12651450
As you can tell, the price difference from rockauto is about $450 and I don’t know if it all really needs replacement
Anytime you do head work, always replace the thermostat and it’s a great time to put in a new set of plugs ! Just about everybody will carry a pretty good line of gaskets and such, I dont reccomend buying parts on-line due to the unreliability of the parts themselves, unless you are ordering from a known good manufacturer.
Thats a hard one for me to judge. Some have better mechanical skills than others , some just cant do that sort of thing. I have been doing mechanical work since I was 12, started with dirt bikes and ended with airplanes. I generally add 6-10 hrs for every hr it takes me. So a tear down and reassembly would probably run into 15- 18 hrs for the average joe.
I am a shade tree mechanic and have owned a Toyota that had the Toyota stripped head bolt problem that required the the block to be drilled and inserts installed. I did that and Toyota wanted over $2000 to do it. How many hours would you expect someone to do this repair in for the first time with your videos as help?
I can’t thank you enough for this. I have the timming chain noise which i know is VERY labor intense but you made it easy for my dumbass to understand! German Engines sheesh whatever happened to the days of the American Motor in a Cadillac? I dont have alot of money to have it serviced but from Ebay purchased a Genuine GM Timming Set so this job only cost me 605.00 instead of 2,000. thank you thank you thank you !
try doing the chain on the chevy traverses and gmc acadias with the 3.6. You have to drop the whole cradle, tranny, engne, suspension and all. It takes like 10 hours
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Yeah that plate insures a good seal between the block and tensioner, to maintain good oil pressure. To be safe , if you go back in replace the tensioner too.
Only after the initial start up was there a mis-fire. Shook the Camaro. Now it runs OK. I put the pin back into the one tensioner, don’t recall which side it was. Also, one of them had that sheet metal backing plate with a bend it from shipping. I think that either one of these, most likely the plate, is causing this problem.
I did this job, with help from your videos. No codes other than when first started, had mis-fire on cyls 1&3.
No for the bad news… I think the right tensioner is bleeding off. After about 6 hours of sitting and after 2 or 3 seconds of start up, I hear a metalic clicking for about a second, or two. I can prevent this from occurring by starting it up and shutting it off as soon as it starts. Then I start it again, and it will not make the sound.
It takes alot of turning to get them to align the way your doing it. If you are confident in the marks and proper alignment just disreguard the current placement, tear it down and align. Be sure to turn it by hand after to make sure it is not binding. The adjuster should have a small locking mechanisim on it that stops it from going back in. That needs to be released in order for you to put it back together, once depressed fully you should be able to pin it back, some use a clip.
OK, I have the cover off and have been turning the engine over trying to get the chains to align. I have the cam tools ( I’m doing the 2010 Camaro, not the same, but close enough) Should I just lock the cams, mark the cam gear things, and put on the new chains aligning them with gear/chain marks instead of keep rotating the engine? Also, one of the self adjustors came with the pin already out and the spring exposed. Ever seen that? Can’t get it to go back inside the holder. It spins out on me.
I wished I could help, im on the east coast.
Are u in california would love for u to do this to my cadillac I need it asap
Problem is the chain is the same design, the design being the problem. Try autozone and see if they dont offer a kit, gears included. You will need the larger kit to do away with the original design….got me ?
Youtube will not let me link to rockauto the two different kits that they offer. One is from AC Delco and is just the three chains, plus gaskets. The other is Cloyes and it replaces the chains, guides, gears, and gaskets. It is a 15 piece kit. I would much rather replace the chains only with the AC Delco kit. Is it a good chain?
Yes it all needs replaced.
Either will work just fine, just make sure it’s the updated version, it appears different. If not , expect to do it again arround the same milage as before.
What I need to know, what make of timing chain do you use? AC Delco, Cloyes, etc.?
CLOYES Part # 90753S This replaces everything, I believe.
Are you using a kit more like this one? ACDELCO Part # 12651450
As you can tell, the price difference from rockauto is about $450 and I don’t know if it all really needs replacement
Anytime you do head work, always replace the thermostat and it’s a great time to put in a new set of plugs ! Just about everybody will carry a pretty good line of gaskets and such, I dont reccomend buying parts on-line due to the unreliability of the parts themselves, unless you are ordering from a known good manufacturer.
Thats a hard one for me to judge. Some have better mechanical skills than others , some just cant do that sort of thing. I have been doing mechanical work since I was 12, started with dirt bikes and ended with airplanes. I generally add 6-10 hrs for every hr it takes me. So a tear down and reassembly would probably run into 15- 18 hrs for the average joe.
I am a shade tree mechanic and have owned a Toyota that had the Toyota stripped head bolt problem that required the the block to be drilled and inserts installed. I did that and Toyota wanted over $2000 to do it. How many hours would you expect someone to do this repair in for the first time with your videos as help?
What else would I need for my 3.6? Do you recommend anyplace, and what parts, to get?
ACDELCO Part # 12651450
I can’t thank you enough for this. I have the timming chain noise which i know is VERY labor intense but you made it easy for my dumbass to understand! German Engines sheesh whatever happened to the days of the American Motor in a Cadillac? I dont have alot of money to have it serviced but from Ebay purchased a Genuine GM Timming Set so this job only cost me 605.00 instead of 2,000. thank you thank you thank you !
Fun times indeed.
try doing the chain on the chevy traverses and gmc acadias with the 3.6. You have to drop the whole cradle, tranny, engne, suspension and all. It takes like 10 hours