FORD LIGHT CONTROL MODULE LCM REBUILD , REPAIR !!!

FORD LIGHT CONTROL MODULE LCM REBUILD , REPAIR !!!

NEW PART NUMBER IT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE VIDEO WAS MADE , HERE IS THE LINK http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=G5LE-1-E-DC12virtualkey65300000v…

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Wero Montiel says:

Hi, I have a grand marquis 99 with light control module issue, after the
heavy winter we had, my car battery was killed a couple time(I thought it
was due the winter) but my mechanic found the light control module has a
short circuit, do you think this will be fixed if I change the relay? I
guess the relays are circuit shorted and stay open and kills my battery
tho, what do you think?. Thanks in advance!

Ryan Smith says:

Here is the link:
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=G5LE-1-E-DC12virtualkey65300000virtualkey653-G5LE-1-E-DC12
it is the same part number just sold in white and made by a different
company. 

mike m says:

Have you ever fixed a GEM module on a 1998 f250 ford or is it not possible

Ryan Smith says:

Just as a heads up to anyone that orders these relay’s, they are now white
and made by OMRON. Thanks for the vid, just did mine and it works like a
champ.

Ryan

gotmituns says:

anyway, i finally had time to install the 4 relays into my light module
crown vic, while following instructions. took about 1 hour. it is a very
easy task, instead of spending hundreds of dollars. the lights work. my
previous symptoms were, I heard a click in module and the headlights went
out. then click again, and the lights came back on. i had to hold the high
beam in order to have headlights at all times…

ventureelect says:

Always heat the pin and the circuit board equally (then apply your
solder) in order to avoid cold solder joints.

grandmercls says:

Awesome video! I drive a 2004 Grand Marquis, with the same issue of
headlights turning off. Now they don’t turn on at all, period. Can this be
fixed by the same process you are showing? Also if i put the original light
bulbs back in after this rebuild, will this issue go away?

Daves Marauder says:

So I get a letter from Ford this week. Seems there is enough of a problem
with this, they are extending warranties on the LCM for a number of
vehicles. My letter said they would warranty the LCM for 15 years or 250k
miles(my car is an ’03 Marauder). It even seemed to suggest it was
transferable if you had sold the car to someone else.

Any other owners get one of these letters?
(oops, had comments sorted wrong, didn’t see sitandbull210’s post right
before mine)

Francisco Moreno says:

great video and what a money saver.. I see you’re with PBC, you’re
probably a tech there or mechanic? Anyhow, thanks for the video..

elppedro77 says:

Outstanding video!! Thank you beltstowing! I will order the relays and fix
it myself, saving me about $280

dasmanal mcclinton says:

Has anybody else made a mistake and burn’t a copper trace?

Robert Browder says:

I just replaced the relays in the LCM for my 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis.
It took about 2 hours and the hardest part (for me) was getting the box out
from, and installed back under the dash.

The local dealer wanted $610 to replace the LCM.

This video saved me a lot of money

Thanks

Angel Delgadillo says:

I have a check engine light issue and trying to get the dashboard off to
change light bulb , can you give me any advice on how to remove the
dashboard safely

william abair says:

I have a 2008 F-150 and am experiencing problems with my auto lamp. Im also
having problems with interior lights and auto locks as well. Will this fix
take care of my problem? I fried a wiring harness prior to problem.

sitandbull210 says:

Hello everyone…just wanted to let everyone know that Ford finally put out
a recall on the LCMs…got my letter today 4/28/14…just 2 days after I
fixed the darn thing myself.

jdmsir231 says:

great video thanks for posting, mouser no longer has the nec 511-eq1-11111s
relay is there an alternate?@beltstowing

towrecker says:

then you have the hot switched lights , not relay controlled , and no you
can’t take it out , it will if I remember right kill the dash light circuit
…was this car an ex police car ? and are you sure something is not tapped
into one of the wires to the wiper delay controller , as that’s what you
said was clicking , a dropped voltage , or ground will cause relays to go
nuts …

towrecker says:

but they do go through the ” multi function switch” better known as the
turn signal , wiper , washer , high beam switch , they do go bad , they are
not cheap , so check all the other stuff I mentioned first by the way ,
there are only 3 lights , if optioned, that are not run through the LCM
they are , the pillar mounted spot light , the aux interior light “ticket
light” and the brake lights …

towrecker says:

it’s your call whatever you wanna do …

ryan12689 says:

I plan to go a different route with my LCM repair. I was going to solder a
5 pin relay socket onto the board, and make the relays external.

Steven Baker says:

I forgot to mention that All other lights work fine except the back-up
lights.

gotmituns says:

I think the switch is ok. But there is a black box under the steering
wheel, when the light turn off, I have to kick the box with my right foot.
Then I hear a click, and lights turns on. could it be a relay problem shown
in the video? (crown victoria 2003) thanks

roltyd22 says:

The solder on the board doesn’t look like it’s ever been redone,but i could
be wrong.

Jon B. says:

I dropped my soldering iron one time and did the samething you did. Grabbed
it by the hot tip. It still goes on the floor because that hurts!

roltyd22 says:

i googled the #,it’s a dam wiper comtrol module.

Daves Marauder says:

I have a similar concern as Thor Jensen asked below. Can anyone confirm for
sure that the new Omron G5LE-1-E-DC12 part is sufficient in terms of the
current it can carry? I’m not a relay expert, but compared the data sheet
for this component and the original NEC EQ1-11111S. The Original lists 30A
contact current, the new part lists 16 A at 250VAC. With all the concerns
that even the original was under-size for the job, I wanted to ask for
opinions before replacing these. Thanks!

towrecker says:

no , it has no computer parts , it is just a big fancy switch , that’s the
best way to put it in simple english lol

roltyd22 says:

why would that be clicking and going nuts when the lights are acting up?

towrecker says:

and I will try and see if I can get a good cross on the number to make
double sure you don’t have some weird ass oddball one lol

Thor Jensen says:

Yeah, I’ve seen a few of those external mods, but I don’t like anything
that doesn’t look at least factory’ish lol. Although having a socket would
be nice if it ever needs to be changed again. There’s actually another vid
on here an amigo did with a relay from Advance Auto that he tucked up
inside the box and resulted in a nice, clean looking repair.

towrecker says:

belts towing gmail

roltyd22 says:

F3LF-17D539-AA # ON BOX

towrecker says:

excuse me , I am not a damn tweaker , or junked out as you say , but I will
inform you that I am a FUCKING HILLBILLY , that owns a GUN , so go hide
SOMEWHERE !!!

Robert Lichtscheidl says:

Sorry about that. Mouser gave me the wrong relay number. The ones I put in
my LCM were EQ1-22111S which is supposed to be a direct replacement of the
ones you bought. $2.28 each. As I mentioned it fixed the light problem but
now my turn signals don’t work and won’t light in the dash. My dad has an
extra LCM from a 04 Grand Mar. and I will install the new (used) box
instead of re-repairing mine. Bummer my worked ended in more problems.

towrecker says:

the highest load on the LCM is 14 amps , that being your high beams , all
the others are far less , also remember the switch made by the relay is of
a ground , that helps some , also in dc that relay would be rated far
higher at just 12 volts , in other words , stuff them in , buy an extra set
for the glovebox , and never look back ,I could toss some algebraic
equations in here to nail it down to the exact rating , but it’s pointless
, as those will handle at least what the original ones did…

sexychocalate1982 says:

lol i looked its still there

towrecker says:

yeah the same thing , and unless you have a light staying on somewhere ,
it’s not the LCM that is your issue …

Ridge97 says:

just think how many people would replace the whole box…good video jason

towrecker says:

do those pin out right ? the superceeded part seems to have enough rating
to make a good alternative , fill me in buddy if ya would , so I can
annotate my video here , I still have a pile of the exact relays laying
here , when mouser put them on the discontinued list , I bought all they
had left 😉

gotmituns says:

I have a problem with my headlights. when i turn the switch on, the
headlights will not turn on. I have to kick (lightly) the box with my right
foot, and then I hear the click, and the headlights turn on. But it is
annoying because when I use the turning signal, the headlights turn off
sometimes. Also they turn off while I am driving at night, and then turn
back on by themselves. is it module problem?

towrecker says:

if you have the plastic switch , replace it , ford recalled that design …

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